Name: Raven internal 6 x FS-ND kit
SKU: JBM210
Price: 400.00 GBP
Availability: OutOfStock

Question 1

What type of ND filters are used?

Accepted Answer

Our ND filters are created using sophisticated coatings rather than dyes, for more accurate colour and exposure control.  They filter visible and infrared light equally, meaning that your camera’s native IR response is attenuated equally to its visible response.  This is more consistent than adding a simple IR cut to a dye-based ND.

Question 2

Are the filters colour neutral?

Accepted Answer

Colour neutrality across all six filters is excellent. Moving between the filter strengths no significant changes will occur.  There is a small but balanced shift moving from no filter at all to using an ND however, so in this scenario we always recommend capturing a colour chip chart in your shot to make matching simple for your colourist.

Question 3

Do I need to configure anything in the camera?

Accepted Answer

No configuration is needed in camera to use the filters.

Question 4

How well do the filters stay in place?

Accepted Answer

The rubber flange fitment works like a ratchet – easy to insert and difficult to remove. It will never shake loose, even under extreme vibration.

Question 5

How do I clean the filters?

Accepted Answer

Unlike our OLPFs, these NDs are designed for very regular handling in any environment.  They have a hard scratch-proof surface, with a water rejecting coating.  Cleaning them is trivial with any soft tissue, cloth and regular lens cleaning fluid. The glass is thin, so avoid undue pressure.

Question 6

Do I need to use the lens shims?

Accepted Answer

The back focus shims are only required if you need to maintain accurate focus marks, or hit a very specific minimum object distance.  Most stills lenses do not have sufficiently accurate markings for this to be a problem. Due to the optics involved, you will always be able to reach infinity focus, even if you don’t use the shims. Remember to remove the shim if you completely remove the ND, as that could result in an inability to find infinity focus.

Question 7

Where is my package?

Accepted Answer

Please contact us to obtain a tracking number or any shipping details. We primarily ship with UPS, Fedex and DHL, according to the package type and destination.

If your package has not yet shipped, please contact us by email for an estimated lead time.

Question 8

Can I use VV size filters on an S35 camera?

Accepted Answer

VV size filters will mechanically fit any DSMC2 camera body. The glass area is bigger, to accommodate the larger sensor size.

For future proofing and simplicity it is possible to use the VV size filter in an S35 camera. Numerous customers queuing for the VV upgrade have selected this option. KipperTie can provide custom self adhesive OLPF masks on request to eliminate any unexpected gate flare on S35 that may arise.

Question 9

Will it fit my camera?

Accepted Answer

Red camera bodies are either DSMC1 or DSMC2. The OLPF design is incompatible between generations.  

DSMC1 filters fit:
Epic Dragon (inc. monochrome), Scarlet Dragon.

DSMC2 filters fit:
Weapon Dragon, Scarlet-W (inc. monochrome), Epic-W, Helium S35

Red One, Red One MX, Epic MX and Scarlet MX are not supported.
DSMC1 filters are discontinued for all except false colour types.

Question 10

What do VV and S35 refer to?

Accepted Answer

Dragon and Helium sensors have a different pixel pitch, as such it is no longer possible to be explicit about sensor optical area by referring to the ‘K’ resolution.

S35 refers to a sensor size approximating 3 perf S35 film. This covers all DSMC1 and DSMC2 RED cameras, whether 5K, 6K (Dragon) or 8K (Helium) with one exception:

VV refers to a sensor size approximating Vistavision, or full frame stills film. This is presently only available in the Weapon Dragon 8K VV and VV Anamorphic cameras.

Question 11

I upgraded my camera. Do I need new filters?

Accepted Answer

If you are moving from one DSMC2 body to another, your filters remain compatible. Only the VV upgrade requires a change of OLPF size.

If you have upgraded from DSMC1 to DSMC2 your filters will need to be replaced.
There is a strong secondhand market for all RED accessories, however we can offer loyalty discounts for those wishing to trade-in and upgrade. Contact us directly for a discount code.

Question 12

What PL lenses are compatible with Adapta RF/PL?

Accepted Answer

All common PL lenses will fit Adapta RF/PL

While there may be exceptions, Adapta RF/PL conforms to the normal PL standard, and even lenses with deep rear elements should fit well.

Question 13

What cameras is Adapta RF/PL compatible with?

Accepted Answer

Adapta RF/PL is designed for RED Komodo.

Any camera using a Canon RF (Eos R) mount will also be compatible, however the support foot height is specific to the Komodo body size.

Question 14

Will Adapta work with mounting accessories from Revolva RF models or vice versa?

Accepted Answer

Adapta RF/PL, Revolva RF/PL and Revolva RF/EF are cross compatible for support.

The support foot and Chinstrap support are each compatible with these mounts and can be interchanged.

Question 15

What EF lenses are compatible with Adapta RF/EF?

Accepted Answer

All standard EF lenses will fit Adapta RF/EF

While there may be exceptions where very unusual optics are concerned, Adapta RF/EF conforms to the normal Canon EF standard.

Question 16

What cameras is Adapta RF/EF compatible with?

Accepted Answer

Adapta RF/EF is designed for RED Komodo.

Any camera using a Canon RF (Eos R) mount will also be compatible, however the support foot height is specific to the Komodo body size.

Question 17

Will Adapta work with mounting accessories from Revolva RF models or vice versa?

Accepted Answer

Adapta RF/PL, Adapta RF/EF, Revolva RF/PL and Revolva RF/EF are cross compatible for support.

The support foot and Chinstrap support are each compatible with these mounts and can be interchanged.

Adapta has top and bottom mountings to which both the support foot and Chinstrap can be attached.

Question 18

Which cameras is Revolva compatible with?

Accepted Answer

Revolva PL, PL-S and EF are designed for any S35 sensor DSMC2 RED camera.

There is substantial compatibility with VV sensor cameras; certain lenses may vignette at full frame.

Note:

A number of camera configurations may need a simple riser for your LCD/EVF. Not compatible - any pre DSMC2 camera, Raven.

Revolva RF/PL and RF/EF are designed for Komodo.

A support foot is supplied whose use is recommended. Better still is the Chinstrap mount.

The Revolva RF range will also fit any camera with a Canon RF (Eos R) mount

Question 19

What accessories clash with Revolva, and what is recommended?

Accepted Answer

DSMC2: Red’s 7” and 4.7” touch screens require the use of a riser for installation on the top cable-less port.

We recommend the Wooden Camera tool-less LCD adapter, which adds some practicality of its own for 4.7” users too.

The DSMC2 EVF requires the same type of riser, again adding some practicality to its mounting in the process. Red’s Lemo adapters, as well as Pogo to Lemo adapters from Tilta and Wooden camera fit as function normally. No accessory or top plate can be allowed to protrude beyond the face of the camera above the lens mount for a height of 20mm, adjacent to the camera name badge.

For specific rigging queries please enquire directly prior to purchase.

Komodo: No currently available accessories conflict.

No accessory or top plate can be allowed to protrude beyond the face of the camera above the lens mount for a height of 25mm, adjacent to the camera name badge.

Question 20

Which lenses do and don’t work, and why?

Accepted Answer

Revolva PL, PL-S and RF/PL are compatible with most modern PL lenses. Revolva EF and RF/EF are compatible with any standard EF lens.

Only PL lenses which have a very deep rear element projection cause trouble. This includes some common vintage lenses such as Panchros, B-speeds, and others of similar optical design.

Lenses with rear projection up to ~21mm behind the flange are safe. Rear projections of ~21mm to ~23mm fit, but are in the ‘No Swap’ zone. ‘No Swap’ means the Revolva cartridge must not be swapped without removing the lens.

Note that lenses of this type tend often to be less than ideal on digital systems due to the acute angle of light striking the sensor.

To check safe lens fitment a simple tool is provided. The tool is available separately for a nominal charge, refundable against a Revolva purchase.

Question 21

What is infrared light?

Accepted Answer

For our purposes, infrared means near-IR wavelengths. Deeper than red light, and imperceptible to our vision, but still light that can be focused by typical lenses and captured by typical CMOS sensors.  It is NOT representative of heat, and is distinct from thermal imaging which requires specialized lenses and sensors.  

In common usage, IR light of this type is used for security cameras, for satellite and agricultural imaging, and for short range optical systems like TV remotes.

Question 22

What is the difference between Full Spectrum and IR spectrum versions?

Accepted Answer

All regular OLPFS attenuate UV, IR and visible wavelengths to govern colour reproduction, making it as close as possible to a human experience of colour.

The Full Spectrum filter allows the camera sensor to see the entire range of wavelengths to which it is naturally sensitive. This means that you will have a colour image, whose colour is distorted by the presence of IR light. IR light is invisible to us, so its presence is hard to predict, but many light sources produce it.  Additionally, many surfaces, especially leaves, skin, and man-made fabrics reflect a disproportionate amount of IR, creating unexpected brightness and contrast.

The IR spectrum filter removes all visible light from the image, but allows the camera to see infrared light (720nm to 950nm) which would otherwise be filtered out.  The result is a monochromatic pink-hued and low-contrast image representing only this invisible light.  Many objects have a very unusual appearance, blue skies become dark, skin becomes almost translucent, and direct IR light sources like LEDs become amazingly powerful and bright.

Question 23

How do I create the weird colourful IR images I’ve seen?

Accepted Answer

These are achieved using the Full Spectrum filter in conjunction with any number of additional solid-colour filters on the lens.  Considerable post-production work is often applied to invert, swap and manipulate colour channels further.

Question 24

How do I create the stark, black-skied landscape images I’ve seen?

Accepted Answer

This is most easily achieved with the IR spectrum filter, but is also possible with the Full Spectrum in conjunction with a 720nm IR pass lens filter.

The resulting image needs to be desaturated, and a heavy contrast curve applied.  RED cameras are ideal for this, as the high bit-depth source allows for very aggressive grading without banding.

Question 25

Do I need special lenses?

Accepted Answer

Most lenses allow IR to pass through, however there are many possible pitfalls. Some lenses exhibit more flare, internal reflection, and iris-shaped hotspots in the image centre.
The best performance is typically found where the lenses were designed with IR film in mind. Many decades-old stills lenses have a specific IR focus dot marked on the barrel. This is a useful indication that IR performance will be good.
If IR is being used in order to capture covert or wildlife images, where light levels are typically low, care should be taken to avoid modern cine and TV lenses, which often have IR cut coatings that can reduce sensitivity to IR by as much as four stops.  For IR, old is good.

Question 26

Do I need additional filters?

Accepted Answer

For false colour imaging, it is wise to invest in additional colour and perhaps IR pass filters, to give yourself greater creative control.  Typically these are the kind of strong colour filters typically used for contrast control with black and white photography.

Question 27

How can I get sharper IR images?

Accepted Answer

The main reason for soft images in IR is split focus.  Due to the differing wavelengths, sharp focus is not possible for both visible light and IR light with the same focus position. In many cases cutting visible light completely, such as with the IR spectrum OLPF, yields much sharper images.

If using artificial IR sources, particularly LEDs, be aware that the LED wavelength can also cause this issue. 850nm is a good wavelength for shooting IR on RED, as it matches the peak of exposure response.  However, many other IR wavelengths are available, and if mixed together in a scene, can cause soft focus.

Question 28

What lighting can I use for wildlife or covert IR filming?

Accepted Answer

850nm IR LED lighting is extremely efficient for this use case. It runs happily from field-portable power, and provides significantly more exposure than equivalent powered daylight LEDs with a daylight camera.

Only a dim red glow is visible to the naked eye, and almost all wildlife vision is equally insensitive to the light as human vision.

Contact KipperTie for information on rental of field-ready IR lighting kits.

Question 29

What is Revolva? Give me the executive summary.

Accepted Answer

Solution for built-in ND on RED cameras.

• Price: Starting from £1300 • Revolva is available for RED DSMC2 in PL and EF versions, and for Komodo as an RF/PL or RF/EF adapter. • ND Filter cartridges are available with values from Clear to ND2.1 • Slot in upper right side of mount receives easily swapped cartridge. • Each filter cartridge has four filter positions, changed by rotating the filter wheel. • Always quick to return to clear filter. • No backfocus shift. • Most modern PL and all common EF lenses compatible. • PL and EF both have OEM circuitry and firmware support. • RF/EF provides electronic pass through from RF to EF. • PL-S and RF/PL have no electronics. • Designed and made by KipperTie in the UK.

Question 30

How do I fit Revolva to my camera?

Accepted Answer

Fitting Procedure: DSMC2

• Switch off your camera. • Remove any existing lens mount using a Torx T20 tool. • Line up the mount and attach using the captive screws, always starting with the exposed screw, upper right. • Slide in a cartridge and boot the camera. • Removal is the reverse of fitting; remove the upper right exposed screw last.

Fitting Procedure: Komodo

Twist the mount into position on the Komodo RF mount. • Attach the Chinstrap to the Komodo with a Torx T20 tool. • The mounting foot and chinstrap both use a 2.5mm hex tool to fasten to the mount. • Slide in a cartridge and you're ready to work.

Question 31

How do I change from one filter value to another?

Accepted Answer

Just turn the wheel!

Ensure the locking screw us loosened and rotate the filter wheel by hand. It will snap into alignment automatically.

If you want to avoid accidental changes, simply tighten the locking screw fully.

Question 32

How do I change cartridge?

Accepted Answer

Just hold the filter cartridge firmly and pull it out.

A finger grip on the top surface sometimes helps. Note:

Be aware that a small number of very deep lenses can prevent the cartridge from being pulled out.
Always use the fitment check tool prior to mounting a lens, if there is any substantially long rear element. Be aware that rear elements often move as the focus is adjusted.

Question 33

My back focus must be affected, surely?

Accepted Answer

No.

Revolva compensates for back focus by design. As long as you have a Revolva cartridge fitted, back focus will be correct.

Bear in mind that temperature, knocks and bumps and other factors can affect back focus for any given lens and camera. Adjusting backfocus on DSMC2 is simple, so you should collimate prior to shooting whenever absolute precision is required. Shims for Revolva PL, RF/PL and RF/EF units are available by request for Ranger and Komodo users.

Question 34

I use EF for electronic focus, iris and stabilisation, does this still work?

Accepted Answer

Yes.

Revolva EF has full support for electronic lenses, exactly the same as Red’s own EF mount.

Revolva RF/EF passes lens control and data unchanged from the host camera to the lens, so all camera supported functions work.

Question 35

I have a heavy lens, how strong and stable is Revolva?

Accepted Answer

Revolva for DSMC2 is comparable to any regular DSMC2 mount.

We advise you to use lens support wherever you normally would.
Typical primes and stills lenses are no issue.

On Komodo, Revolva RF/PL and RF/EF it is almost essential to use the supplied support foot, or better the Chinstrap, to prevent otherwise expected movement in the camera's RF mount.

Question 36

Does this replace the OLPF? I have a favourite OLPF, or I don't like to change it.

Accepted Answer

No, do not remove the OLPF.

Revolva’s filtration is separate and distinct from the OLPF. As a result your preference of OLPF can be combined with any Revolva filter. No need to touch the OLPF or get near the sensor.

Question 37

How is colour affected?

Accepted Answer

Revolva is extremely colour neutral.

We always recommend testing your equipment prior to shooting. Any additional optics in front or behind a lens can naturally result in subtle image characteristic changes.

Question 38

Do I need to configure the camera in any special way?

Accepted Answer

On DSMC2 you may need a riser for your monitor. No changes are needed in how you use your camera’s interface and controls.

Komodo RF/PL and RF/EF version require no special rigging, but care should be taken where accessories protrude in front of the top edge of the camera.

Question 39

Do I need to do anything in post?

Accepted Answer

No.

No changes in post are required.

Question 40

I need /i Data metadata, does Revolva provide this?

Accepted Answer

Yes.

Revolva PL has the exact same support for lens data and power as Red’s own PL mount. Revolva PL-S does not support /i Data.

Question 41

How is Revolva packaged?

Accepted Answer

Revolva bundles ship in a reusable, recyclable foam filled card case .

Revolva comes packaged safely in a magnetic closure heavy duty cardboard case with foam filling. Space is available for multiple spare cartridges and the fitment test tool.

Question 42

What's the down side?  You can tell me, we're friends...

Accepted Answer

PL versions have some lens fitment compromises, EF doesn’t.

Certain PL lenses just don’t fit. Older style glass in almost all cases with deep rear elements and steep ray angles. Certain lenses vignette on VV, usually longer focal lengths. Certain combinations of camera accessories will obstruct fitment and require changes to your rigging.

…also, people will be jealous of your cool gear and say mean things about you in the crafty line.

Question 43

Where can I buy?

Accepted Answer

We recommend purchasing from our trusted resellers or from this site wherever possible.  Local resellers will give the fastest service and the full retail facilities you would expect. If time is not critical, or you have no local reseller we offer free worldwide 5 to 7 day shipping from our online store.

Question 44

Are KipperTie OLPFs and filters approved by RED?

Accepted Answer

KipperTie are part of RED’s approved third party product programme. Look for the 'RED Approved' logo.

Question 45

I have a problem, what should I do?

Accepted Answer

We are happy to offer technical support and advice directly by email.  Please get in contact, ideally quoting your order number so that we can identify your exact product.

For product warranty and replacement issues, please contact your reseller first, or KipperTie directly if purchased online.

Question 46

Where can I buy Adapta?

Accepted Answer

Online orders can be placed through this store.

Purchases are also possible through Kippertie resellers around the world.

Question 47

What is the lead time?

Accepted Answer

Adapta products are built to order on an approximately 2 week lead time.

If you have a specific deadline, please let us know and we will do our best to accommodate.

Question 48

Will you ship to my country?

Accepted Answer

We ship worldwide from our base in the UK.

The only export limitations we must adhere to are for Cuba, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Iran and Syria.

Question 49

Where can I buy Revolva?

Accepted Answer

Online orders can be placed through this store.

Purchases are also possible through Kippertie resellers around the world.

Question 50

What filters are used in Revolva?

Accepted Answer

The available cartridges are:

Cartridge A:

• Clear filter (ND 0) • ND 0.3 • ND 0.6 • ND 0.9

Cartridge B: • ND 1.2 • ND 1.5 • ND 1.8 • ND 2.1

Cartridge S

• Clear filter (ND 0) • ND 0.6 • ND 1.2 • ND 2.1

KipperTie provides filters manufactured to our own exacting specification, with some unique design aspects. Our filters are extremely colour neutral from one ND value to the next.

Available by request is a set of KipperTie diffusion filters. All are grade 1 strength, consisting of:

• Clear filter • Gold • Pearl • Carbon

Question 51

Is Revolva approved by Red? Is my warranty OK?

Accepted Answer

KipperTie is part of RED’s approved third party programme.

Revolva has full RED approved status. It is our intention that neither Revolva, nor any part of the recommended method of fitting and using Revolva affect your RED warranty.

Question 52

What is the lead time?

Accepted Answer

Revolva products are built to order on an approximately 4 week lead time Longtake is in stock for rapid despatch

If you have a specific deadline, please let us know and we will do our best to accommodate.

Question 53

Will you ship to my country?

Accepted Answer

We ship worldwide from our base in the UK.

The only export limitations we must adhere to are for Cuba, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Iran and Syria.

Question 54

Can I buy the just the mount or cartridges separately?

Accepted Answer

System components can be purchased separately from their own product pages.

Spare or additional parts for existing customers are available by request.

Question 55

Can I have a custom version with my choice of filters?

Accepted Answer

Just ask, we may be able to accommodate you.

As always KipperTie are proud to offer flexibility wherever possible.
Please get in touch if you have an unusual requirement.

Question 56

What type of ND filters are used?

Accepted Answer

Our ND filters are created using sophisticated coatings rather than dyes, for more accurate colour and exposure control.  They filter visible and infrared light equally, meaning that your camera’s native IR response is attenuated equally to its visible response.  This is more consistent than adding a simple IR cut to a dye-based ND.

Question 57

Are the filters colour neutral?

Accepted Answer

Colour neutrality across all six filters is excellent. Moving between the filter strengths no significant changes will occur.  There is a small but balanced shift moving from no filter at all to using an ND however, so in this scenario we always recommend capturing a colour chip chart in your shot to make matching simple for your colourist.

Question 58

Do I need to configure anything in the camera?

Accepted Answer

No configuration is needed in camera to use the filters.

Question 59

How well do the filters stay in place?

Accepted Answer

The rubber flange fitment works like a ratchet – easy to insert and difficult to remove. It will never shake loose, even under extreme vibration.

Question 60

How do I clean the filters?

Accepted Answer

Unlike our OLPFs, these NDs are designed for very regular handling in any environment.  They have a hard scratch-proof surface, with a water rejecting coating.  Cleaning them is trivial with any soft tissue, cloth and regular lens cleaning fluid. The glass is thin, so avoid undue pressure.

Question 61

Do I need to use the lens shims?

Accepted Answer

The back focus shims are only required if you need to maintain accurate focus marks, or hit a very specific minimum object distance.  Most stills lenses do not have sufficiently accurate markings for this to be a problem. Due to the optics involved, you will always be able to reach infinity focus, even if you don’t use the shims. Remember to remove the shim if you completely remove the ND, as that could result in an inability to find infinity focus.

Question 62

Where is my package?

Accepted Answer

Please contact us to obtain a tracking number or any shipping details. We primarily ship with UPS, Fedex and DHL, according to the package type and destination.

If your package has not yet shipped, please contact us by email for an estimated lead time.

Question 63

Will the camera recognise the filter automatically?

Accepted Answer

DSMC 1 cameras require manual selection of OLPF type in all cases.
DSMC2 cameras will detect (on start-up only) the general type of OLPF fitted.  RED original filters will select a single fixed calibration, KipperTie’s 3rd party filters will allow the user to select their choice of colour calibration, and allow the entry of custom metadata to describe the OLPF.

Question 64

Which calibration should I select?

Accepted Answer

For diffusion filters, please select ‘Skintone Highlight’ as the calibration in the OLPF menu. 

DSMC2: Click ‘none’, change to ‘3rd party’ and then select ‘Skintone Highlight’ and add custom data if required to describe filter type

For false colour filters, please select ‘None’ or ‘Low light optimised’ as the calibration in the OLPF menu. 

DSMC2: Choose ‘none’, or change to ‘3rd party’ and then select ‘Low light optimised’ and add custom data if required to describe filter type.